A Little Different Story About Electric Cars!!

Submitted By: DevilOrAngel from Somewhere

A Little Different Story About Electric Cars!!

Devided into multiple parts to fit posting limits....

               

INTERESTING -  ONE OTHER QUESTION. IF ELECTRIC CARS DO
                NOT USE GASOLINE, THEY WILL NOT PARTICIPATE IN PAYING A
                GASOLINE TAX ON EVERY GALLON THAT IS SOLD FOR
                AUTOMOBILES, WHICH WAS ENACTED SOME YEARS AGO TO HELP TO
                MAINTAIN OUR ROADS AND BRIDGES. THEY WILL USE THE ROADS,
                BUT WILL NOT PAY FOR THEIR MAINTENANCE! WHO WILL BEAR
                THE BURDEN?
                In case you were thinking of buying hybrid or an
                electric car:
                Ever since the advent of electric cars, the REAL cost
                per mile of those things has never been discussed. All
                you ever heard was the mpg in terms of gasoline, with
                nary a mention of the cost of electricity to run it.
                This is the first article I've ever seen and tells the
                story pretty much as I expected it to.

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   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Electricity has to be one of the least efficient ways to
power things yet they're being shoved down our throats.
Glad somebody finally put engineering and math to paper.
At a neighborhood BBQ I was talking to a neighbor, a BC
Hydro executive.  I asked him how that renewable thing
was doing.  He laughed, then got serious. If you really
intend to adopt electric vehicles, he pointed out, you
had to face certain realities. For example, a home
charging system for a Tesla requires 75 amp service. 
The average house is equipped with 100 amp service.  On
our small street (approximately 25 homes), the
electrical infrastructure would be unable to carry more
than three houses with a single Tesla, each.  For even
half the homes to have electric vehicles, the system
would be wildly over-loaded.
This is the elephant in the room with electric
vehicles.  Our residential infrastructure cannot bear
the load. So as our genius elected officials promote
this nonsense, not only are we being urged to buy these
things and replace our reliable, cheap generating
systems with expensive, new windmills and solar cells,
but we will also have to renovate our entire delivery
system!  This latter 'investment' will not be revealed
until we're so far down this dead end road that it will
be presented with an 'OOPS...!' and a shrug.
22/Aug/18 2:30 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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If you want to argue with a green person over cars that
are eco-friendly, just read the following. Note: If you
ARE a green person, read it anyway. It's enlightening.
Eric test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of
General Motors and he writes, 'For four days in a row,
the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before
the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine.'  Eric
calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it
ran on the battery.  So, the range including the
9-gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is
approximately 270 miles.
It will take you 4.5 hours to drive 270 miles at 60
mph.  Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you
have a total trip time of 14.5 hours.  In a typical road
trip your average speed (including charging time) would
be 20 mph.
According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16
kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a
drained battery.  The cost for the electricity to charge
the Volt is never mentioned, so I looked up what I pay
for electricity. I pay approximately (it varies with
amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh. 16 kwh x
$1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery. $18.56 per
charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate
the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar
size car with a gasoline engine that gets only 32 mpg. 
$3.19 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.10 per mile.

The gasoline powered car costs about $20,000 while the Volt costs
$46,000-plus.  So the Canadian and American Governments wants loyal
citizens not to do the math, but simply pay three times as much for a
car, that costs more than seven times as much to run, and takes three
times longer to drive across the country.
22/Aug/18 2:31 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Rereading, the cost of electricity, $1.16 per KWH, seems a bit high, but it may just be the area in question....
22/Aug/18 2:45 AM
Abdellah Machmoum  From Casablanca
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12/Jun/19 11:02 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Because This shouldn't be buried in the spam.
07/Jul/19 4:08 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Something else to think about....

THIS IS A TOTALLY REALISTIC SITUATION. SUGGESTIONS ANYONE? ANYONE…..? HELLO………

Imagine Florida with a hurricane coming toward Miami. The Governor orders an evacuation. All cars head north. They all need to be charged in Jacksonville. How does that work? Has anyone thought about this? If all cars were electric, and were caught up in a three-hour traffic jam with dead batteries, then what? Not to mention that there is virtually no heating or air conditioning in an electric vehicle because of high battery consumption.

If you get stuck on the road all night, no battery, no heating, no windshield wipers, no radio, no GPS (all these drain the batteries), all you can do is try calling 911 to take women and children to safety. But they cannot come to help you because all roads are blocked, and they will probably require all police cars will be electric also. When the roads become unblocked no one can move! Their batteries are dead.

How do you charge the thousands of cars in the traffic jam? Same problem during summer vacation departures with miles of traffic jams. There would be virtually no air conditioning in an electric vehicle. It would drain the batteries quickly. Where is this electricity going to come from? Today's grid barely handles users' needs. Can't use nuclear, natural gas is running out. Oil fired is out of the question. Coal? Forget it. Then where will come from?

What will be done with billions of dead batteries, can’t bury them in the soil, can’t go to landfills.

The cart is way ahead of the horse. No thought whatsoever to handle any of the problems that batteries can cause.

The liberal press doesn't want to talk or report on any of this.

By the way, in France, thousands of taxis are now stored as inoperable because the batteries are dead and to replace them would cost more than the value of the vehicle itself!
23/Dec/21 4:10 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Let's see -

$70 K for an EV and if you are 4th in line at the charging station, you will only have to wait about 3 hours.

Hmmm
12/Jul/22 12:04 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Florida family drives into electric car problem: a replacement battery costs more than vehicle itself.

The Florida family found out a replacement for the electric car's battery would cost thousands
A family in Florida drove into a major problem after buying a used electric vehicle: the replacement battery for their dead car wound up costing more than the used car was purchased for.

Avery Siwinski is a 17-year-old whose parents spent $11,000 on a used Ford Focus Electric car, which is a 2014 model and had about 60,000 miles when it was bought.
The teenager had the car for six months before it began giving her issues and the dashboard was flashing symbols.

'It was fine at first,' Siwinski said. 'I loved it so much. It was small and quiet and cute. And all the sudden it stopped working.'

She told the news outlet that the car stopped running after taking it to a repair shop, and the family eventually found out that the car's battery would need to be replaced.
The problem? A battery for the electric car costs $14,000, according to the news outlet.

Siwinski's grandfather stepped in to help out with the car problems because her father passed away in June due to colon cancer

The Ford dealership had advised us that we could replace the battery,' said her grandfather, Ray Siwinski. 'It would only cost $14,000.'

However, the family found out that there weren't any batteries of that type available anymore because the Ford model is discontinued. 'So it didn't matter. They could cost twice as much and we still couldn't get it.'

(YOU CAN STILL GET GAS FOR A 100 YEAR OLD CAR...)
19/Jul/22 1:04 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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What is a battery? I think Tesla said it best when they called them Energy Storage Systems. That’s important. Batteries do not make electricity they store electricity produced elsewhere, primarily by coal, uranium, natural gas-powered plants, or diesel-fueled generators. So, to say an EV is a zero-emission vehicle is not at all valid. Also, since forty percent of the electricity generated in the U.S. is from coal-fired plants, it follows that forty percent of the EVs on the road are coal-powered It takes the same amount of energy to move a five-thousand-pound gasoline-driven automobile a mile as it does an electric one. The only question again is what produces the power? To reiterate, it does not come from the battery; the battery is only the storage device, like a gas tank in a car.
And ironically, because EVs are typically heavier than ICE-powered vehicles (because of the heavy battery packs), it takes MORE energy to get them up to speed.

Hmm...............
28/Oct/22 2:24 PM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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About Windmills

''Green Energy''?

In Case You Did Not Know About This...

A two-metawatt windmill is made up of 260 tons of steel that required 300 tons of iron ore and 170 tons of coking coal, all mined, transported and produced by hydrocarbons. A windmill could spin until it falls apart and never generate as much energy as was invested in building it…

29/Jan/23 6:00 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Why are we told to lower Air Conditioner usage on hot days to prevent overwhelming the electric grid while simultaneously being told to trade in petrol cars for electric vehicles?
26/Jun/23 1:29 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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If your electric car runs out of power on the motorway, do you walk to a charging station to get a bucket of electricity?
26/Jun/23 1:31 AM
sudokurockbraveheart  From USA
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Yeah for sure, electric cars definitely don't use gas but they'll most definitely be using the roads! So it's def a bit of a conundrum that needs looking into. But I'm sure there are some solutions out there somewhere!
01/Jul/23 6:48 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Hertz selling 20,000 EVs from fleet, to reinvest in gas-powered vehicles
Rental car giant said the sales will continue over the course of 2024.

And, yes, you have to recharge it before returning....
12/Jan/24 3:31 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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January 15, 2024
Chicago and much of the Midwest were plunged into a deep freeze.
Desperate Tesla owners in and around Chicago were seen trying to charge their vehicles with no luck amid frigid temperatures that have gripped the Midwest.
Charging stations have essentially turned into car graveyards in recent days as temperatures have dropped to the negative double digits.
'Nothing. No juice. Still on zero percent,' One owner, who had been trying to recharge his Tesla at an Oak Brook, Illinois Tesla supercharging station since Sunday afternoon, told a news outlet. 'And this is like three hours being out here after being out here three hours yesterday.'
Many of the electric vehicles have been forced to sit amid freezing temperatures. Many of the vehicles failed to charge at stations around Chicago amid the cold weather.
Several Tesla owners were trying to charge their cars amid long lines and abandoned cars at other Tesla charging stations in the Chicago area, a news station reported.
'This is crazy. It’s a disaster. Seriously,' said one Tesla owner.
One lady said she abandoned her car and got a ride from a friend after hers would not charge.
'We got a bunch of dead robots out here,' one man said.
One traveler told the Fox station that they landed Sunday night at Chicago O'Hare International Airport and found his Tesla dead and unable to start. He was forced to hire a flatbed tow truck to haul the vehicle to a working charging station.
One expert told a news outlet that cold weather can impact the ability of electric vehicles to charge properly. (Duh)
'It’s not plug and go. You must precondition the battery, meaning that you must get the battery up to the optimal temperature to accept a fast charge,'
17/Jan/24 4:15 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Electric vehicle owners
should ONLY be allowed to
charge their cars using
solar and wind power,
otherwise it's just
pretend...
07/Feb/24 8:39 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Electric vehicles are only as clean as the electricity powering them. They are only as green as the production chain that produced them.
29/Feb/24 9:27 AM
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