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Steve  From Ohio    Supporting Member
1) Start at 23 filled - the given puzzle. Unique Possibilities to 28. (UP 28) (solve all the sixes).
2) Locked 2's at d46 forbid d12=2. UP 32.
3) Hidden pair 38 at d2, f3 forbids d2= 459, f3=49.
4) Locked 4's at d23 forbids d89=4. UP 36.
5) i7=8 == i3=8 -- g2=8 == d2=8 forbids d7=8.. UP 81.

Total sets: 1 + 2 + 1 + 2 = 6. Max depth 2.
Proof difficulty rating: .01 + .03 + .01 + .03 = .08. Less than .1 is trivial, I think
Fred  From MI
9:29 Maen
Steve  From Ohio    Supporting Member
Yesterday, some asked for explanation of terminology. Check proofs link below.

Step 5 above is standard 'coloring' presented as a forbidding chain:
If i7=8, then d7<>8. If i7<>8, then i3=8, then g2<>8, then d2=8, and d7<>8. Thus, in any event, d7<>8.
nick  From lyon - fr -
Easy today
MB  From DE, USA
Must have been easy today. I didn't need any guesses!

What a handsome family.
Jason  From North Carolina
16:08
Is this a good time?
I tried it without any random guessing.
Usually I am in the 20+ range.
tammy  From ore
Timer 00:07:25
Steve  From Ohio    Supporting Member
Hurried through proof above: It can be improved upon, though it is hardly worth it:

1) Start at 23 filled. UP 28
2) Locked 2's at d46 forbid d12=2. UP 32.
3) Pair 59 at d1,f1 forbids d2=5, d2,e23,f3=9. UP 36.
4) i7=8 == i3=8 -- g2=8 == d2=8 forbids d7=8.. UP 81.

Total sets: 1 + 2 + 2 = 5. Max depth 2.
Proof difficulty rating: .01 + .03 + .03 = .07.
Nick  From Toronto
24:00
Cinji  From Kansas
20:07 super slow,brain fog
Deb...my daughter wants to know if your son is coming over to Kansas anytime soon...if so, she says, look us up. What a cutie!
Amanda  From Rhode Island
10:04, my best time yet! I only made about five mistakes but once they where fixed I easily finished. That was fun!
Mandy  From Perth WA
TOUGH SUDOKU CHAIN FOR DUMMIES (like me)
placed all my possibilities==hmmm=== guessed==flashes of red==oh no== stable green== automatic removal. Then another guess== green, guess again==flashing red== oh bother, try again. Okay done.
cute family Deb.
Amy  From BC
Slightly different to Steve but amounts to the same thing - UP 36 then if i3=8, d2&7=8, which can't be, therefore i7 must =8., UP 81.
Chris  From SC
14:12 and only 1 red flash. Wow
Patty  From Pennsylvania
Very Easy Tough today. No guesses for me! Yea!
MB  From DE, USA
Mandy from Perth -- Very funny!
Mandy  From Perth W.A
MB from DE USA (where is that by the way?)
I wasn't trying to be funny....that is how I REALLY solve most of the tough ones
Linda  From Massachusetts
mAen,
This was easier than the hard for me today for whatever reason.

Good looking kin, my daughter made the same comment as Cinji's did!
Steve  From Ohio    Supporting Member
Mandy's ingenious technique:
Guess: red flash == green flash: forbids wrong guess . prn. easy to end.

Andrei: applying the general idea of matrix construction to a set of possibilities, it seems that one can construct a rather full matrix in some situations that will imply a group of non-native strong sets. Of course this is obvious with constructs like swordfish, etc. The very tough tough of 4/2/06 -- it seems to me that there is some significant benefit to writing a proof of that ugly monster using matrices and abandoning forbidding chains. 'Tis something I may have to add more often.

It also seems that complicated forbiddings using groups of almost locked sets - and almost almost locked sets - will become not only more transparent, but less complicated with some matriz techniques. Perhaps more investigation into this area is warranted.

Although one can write most (if not all) such techniques as forbidding chains (using partitions of sets, rather then the standard nomenclature) - using matrices seems to make that exercise somewhat laborious.
Glenn  From Winter Springs, FL    Supporting Member
Deb - by any chance is your son thinking of going to the University of Florida? My daughter starts there in a couple months and...
Canuk Greg  From Ottawa, Canada    Supporting Member
Good mAen to all. Thanks for letting us get to know your family Gath!!
katie  From michigan
7:06
jeana  From philadelphia
8:21 good mAen all! good looking family!
Steph  From Kansas
18:04 Deb, your whole family is a photographer's dream. You should be very proud!
Jeana  From Maine, USA
Nice looking young man & adorable little lady!
larryville  From ks usa
38'00, with reference to Steve's first proof. On my own I began looking at the same 8's that he did, but failed to take d7 into consideration. Bother.

I still don't understand colors. Is there anywhere to go look up an explanation? Anymore I can't get here every day, and if I miss even a few days in a row there get to be mountains of information to sort through. I also can't usually get here early in the day, either. I'd be grateful to anyone who can post my query early so that more people may have a chance to respond...
glennis  From young
I have heard of lock up your daughters but after seeing the pic and reading the comments I think in this case it is lock up your son Very nice young Gentleman deb The sun is out but still very cold and loving it
Rose  From Sydney
I have stumbled on something new and wonderous!!!(OK, well some of you have been suggesting this for months now, but it takes some of us in the rut longer to climb out) I didn't time myself and I really enjoyed it!

It is certainly a case of 'lock up your sons', Glynnis - I even went 'Mmmm. Yummy.' and I'm over 40. I'm a sad sick woman.
MB  From DE, USA
MANDY from Perth -- glad you asked! Delaware is the second smallest state in the US. (Rhode Island is the smallest.) We are just south of Philadelphia and halfway between Washington, DC, and New York City on the train (Amtrak).

As to why I said it was funny -- it was so real for me, and such a good parody of the proofs of those who are way more into mathematics/logic than I!
MB  From DE, USA
GLENN -- Ah, Gainsville! What a nice college town. (I visited there several years ago.)
Meg  From Kingaroy Qld
14:15 went well till I got stuck. Untangled the chain using Steve's Step 5 and I was away again. Thanks Steve.
Which Deb owns up to these beautiful people. My 17 y.o. daughter would say he was 'hot'. Deb from Bris., is he yours? How old is he?
Meg  From Kingaroy Qld
Larryville/ks usa - Untick 'Allow incorrect moves' in the boxes under the puzzle, then if you put the wrong number in a cell it will flash red to tell you that it's wrong. If it is correct, then it shows green. I do this when I am really stuck on a puzzle and I start guessing, then I know if my guess is right or wrong before I go too far.
Mamacita  From Pa.,USA
Nice looking little boy. He seems to be fuul of life and looking to find something or someone---perhaps, mom?
Con  From Perth
21:42 But I think one of my 'logical' deductions may have been a guess. (I think my chain went awry somewhere as I couldn't replicate it later.) Oh well, at least I can do some real work now!
sundance  From virginia
Larryville,
Try this site:http://www.angusj.com/sudoku/hints. php
GiGi  From Sylacauga Alabama    Supporting Member
19:12
Sundance  From Virginia
Larryville,
Sorry, there is a space between the . and the php. Try http://www.angusj.com/sudoku/hints.php
wmeb  From Philadelphia, Pa.    Supporting Member
fine looking boys
tammy  From Sydney
10:34 with a lucky 'guess'.
wow, Deb must be beautiful too! a niece with lots of blonde curls, and a spunk of a son, who obviously doesn't mind entertaining the littlies. what a great family! oh wait, is this the Deb from Brisbane who we saw a while back with her daughter? definitely beautiful genes in the family.
tammy  From Sydney
alana is a girl's name, and that looks like a little girl to me. Or am I wrong? there seems to be a bit of confusion on the site about the younger one's gender!
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