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well the post i made just with the list of lexicons didnt pass thru..wonder whats wrong and where..this is a bit frustrating..anyway a second try..lemme see..

right there it is...
.ackack, n. Rapid-fire criticism.
'I had scarcely finished my talk when I was cut down by a withering barrage of ackack' Hence ackerman, n. Rapid-fire critic.
.albritton, adj. Contraction of 'all but written'. 'It's albritton here; I'll be with you in a minute.'
.anscombe, v. (1) To gather for safe-keeping.
'She anscombed with all the notes and letters.' (2) To go over carefully, with a fine-tooth comb, in an oblique direction. (a naive dame like me will concur with the second definition rather than the first!)
.armstrong unit, n. Measure of the wavelength of belief (= 10 micro-smarts). (ha!this look a bit familiar!)

.arthurdantist, n. One who straightens the teeth of exotic dogmas. 'Little Friedrich used to say the most wonderful things before we took him to the arthurdantist!' - Frau Nietzsche (honestly i hardly followed this,but then i fancy the introduction of such things to enhance the sophistication of the presentation!)
.assearltion, n. A speech act whose illocutionary!? force is identical with the speaker.
'He assearled himself across the room.'
.austintatious, adj. Displaying in a fine sense the niceties of the language.
'I'm not sure what his point was, but his presentation was certainly austintatious.'(wow i just cant wait to use this word)
.ayer, v. (from Spanish, ayer, meaning yesterday) To oversimplify elegantly in the direction of a past generation.
'Russell, in the Analysis of Mind, ayers a behaviorist account of belief.' (mmmmm,another word of beaut)

so thats all for today..stay tuned for the rest...
cheers

hey no takers for the words!!??sad :(....
but can i stay away??no way...you guys are destined...
today 'b'........
.bahm, v. To devastate with reprints.
'He bahmed the country with his latest piece.'
.bambrough, n. (1) A rare and umbrageous tree in the shelter of which all philosophical perplexity can be charmed away.
(2) (from bang-brow) A comment of such transcendent obviousness that were any hearer actually informed by it, he would smite his forehead with the heel of his hand. 'Such a bambrough! Why didn't I think of it?' (i like this more than the first!)
.barcan, n. The cry of the bulldog. 'Tho 'bitin' may scar us, no barcan can mark us' - Old Professor's Song at Yale.
.bar-hillel, n. A whipping post. 'We've got him over a bar-hillel.'
.barry, v. To infer dismissals of philosophical skepticism. Cf. hume. 'It was barried in a long white stroud.'

.bergson, n. A mountain of sound, a 'buzzing, blooming confusion'.
.bertrand, n. (1) A state of profound abstraction of mind and spirit; a trance.
'He went into a bertrand and began to babble about the class of all classes which are not member of themselves.'
(2) The state of a person who suffers from delusions (e.g. as of one who doubts that, when he sees a table, he sees a table), or has visions (e.g. of the present King of France).
(3) A state of linguistic amnesia, as of one who believes that 'this' is a proper name and 'Plato' a description.
(ha!did i undersatnd that??ok guys how abt you!!:)>>)

think this page is exclusively made for me for the time being looks like..if you wanna be left alone,talk philosophy!thats my philosophy,lol,lol,
ok the list for 'b's really big..will do it in parts(as if anybody cares!)and i am off to NY for 2 to 3 days..so will see you all on monday eve most probably...ta ta...
cheers

ap: Your dictionaries are wonderful and something to look forward to each day. Having to wait 'till Monday is almost too much. Don't miscontrue silence to be disinterest, the definitions speak for themselves. What could anyone possibly add?

Should Beehive be barred from access to this site?

Is his conduct such that the police should be summoned?

I have just seen this site and came across that last post by Ian from Boston. It intrigued me to the point where I just had to have a look and see what transpired on this site to lead to such a post. Fortunately the relevant posts were not too far away in archives. I only saw a few posts from beehive and some about him, (I presume a male since Gath named him as Greg). I saw nothing that could be remotely classed as offensive or illegal in any way, shape or form. Of course I am not aware if any posts have been deleted, (someone, ap from Boston alluded to the possibility).

As for the matter being of being barred access to a site, I am not aware of any laws in any western countries, (there are laws in certain Totalitarian States that bar internet access), that make it illegal for any person to visit a public website. Trying to stop someone from using an internet site is like putting a large sign in your front yard, then trying to legally ban people from seeing it. Of course if the host of the site, (for this site I presume, Gath), has the technical knowhow and the right software he can block any person from posting on the site by blocking their IP address. This leads us to the fact that the person, (as stated by Hugh from Canberra), can simply change their ISP, (changing their name won't work as their computer will be blocked). This however is not even necessary as their are numerous sites on the internet that provide alternative ways to circumvent such bans. Beehive must know this as Gath has said that he has disregarded the ban and continues to post. THIS IS NOT ILLEGAL. It may be frustrating for the host, but there is nothing that can be done about it except continued blocking of their IP address.

The allegation of harassing people in a chatroom is ludicrous as all a person has to do is either leave, or click on the ignore button. The chatroom on this site has NO moderator to ban people and it is common knowledge that you have freedom of speech,(unless the programmer has applied filtering of certain words or characters), in most chatrooms found on the internet.
Unless beehive has been trying to entice minors for sexual activity or has been promoting illegal literature, he has has not committed any crime whatsoever. In fact, I would say if he had any brains and took a copy of that post from Gath, he would have a good chance at a lawsuit against Gath for libel, if, of course Greg Evans is his real name.

Excellent post, gave me a lot to think about.

Rosemary:
I hope you don't mind my moving your question to the next page. It seems to have fallen behind.

Ok questions for all to ponder
Are you afraid of getting old?
And, would you prefer to live in the retirement home or live with young people?
Maybe can add
what are you unable to do now that you are older that you used to be able to do when young?
what are you able to do now that you couldnt when younger?

Ian & James
I do not think that you have all the information of posts that have been deleted or things that have happened on the site over a long period of time, unless you are on here 24/7.
Gath, as he said has not wanted to do this but has little choice.
There are rules on the site to be adhered to, if you don't like those rules then don't frequent the site. Perhaps he could invent his own site and make up his own rules that make him happy.

Jeb
thank you for re listing the last topic I posted.
I am not afraid of getting older but everything just gets a little harder to do and takes longer to achieve.
I would prefer to stay independent for as long as possible but I think a parents revenge is to have the kids look after you in your old age..... only joking Lauren. I think retirement complexes are a great idea with whatever level support you need at the time.
mmmmm what can I not do now that I could do when younger ........
play energetic sports like netball, basketball, tennis
have kids ... oops sorry ...... children
remember what the topic is without going back to re read .... lol
run, sneeze or cough without consequences .... rotfl
Now
what can I do now that I couldnt do when young?relax,
choose more wisely,
think before I speak ..... yes I do
am more relaxed with myself
mmmmmmmmmm need more time to think for this part of the question, I may revisit with more ideas.
I told you it takes longer to do everything!!

I hope you don't mind me copying your list jeb on the cant's and can's etc.

Cant's:
Run up Covent Garden tube steps (193) like I did with my friends way back when without oxygen, I know I tried it with my daughter two weeks ago, I won't tell you how far I got but 999 (911) was on my mobile ready...(thank god the deodorant was working!)
Cough and laugh without consequences (Rose rotfl)
Can't remember important stuff even though I know I should like where do you live?
Can't remember the answers to questions even though I asked them 20 minutes before and got a reply..
Can's:
Remember when my dad told me 'Semper ubi sub ubi' at the age of fourteen, which I repeated to my Latin teacher at my oh so posh Queen Elizabeth Grammar School, she asked who told me that, 'my father' I said, she asked to meet my father, she wore exceedingly short skirts and I'm sure that my father knew that all along..
Hang around a bunch of old farts and not understand what they are talking about but its fun anyway..
Hang around a bunch of kids and not understand what they are talking about but its fun anyway..
Hang around with a bunch of women in both the real and the 'virtual sudoku' life and understand everything they are talking about and laugh all the time when we write chapters and poetry xxx much love to them xxx
Drive to school in my pyjamas, not caring that I look like a hedgehog gone backwards through a vacuum, to get my children to school on time because they slept in..
Read poetry in the still of the night because I want to..
Want to do's: (Gosh I can waffle as well)
Hike through the Amazon just because..
Go to Antarctica ditto above..
Continue to lie on a blanket and watch the stars with my children and remember that I did it with my nan when I was little, she used to wake me up in the middle of the night, take me outside, and lie down on a blanket and just look above x
Remember always to tell my family and my friends that I love them as often as I can xx (Thats way past soppy but..)
And eat chocolate, watch Johnny Depp play Roux, hang the consequences.. because it feels good xx

One more:
To continue to pratise Zippo lighter tricks with my brother in the dead of the night, when working together, until I don't set fire to my hands.. because he wants to be proud of me..

and the elastoplasts are'nt working...

I find it just as intriguing that James has just found this site and this particular page...sorry James if you are a genuine poster, but it is hard to 'trust' certain posts given what has transpired and that greg still continues to visit this site.

Cant's (can't's?)
1. eat a 2 litre tub of ice cream and not throw up.
2. remember
3. can't remember what I can't do except that there is something to be said for good bladder control...
4.do what André is trying to do with a zippo...

can
1. do more now than I ever did before and have the freedom to do it without detractors.

...even if it means I get 3rd degree burns on my hands with a zippo.

Interesting question posed by Rosemary....but too late for me perhaps, yet I can give you my perspective!!!! I'm already old...almost 71, and we are only promised 3 score and ten(70)in the bible. If one believes that, I'm living on borrowed time as my mom use to put it. What can't I do now that I use to do? I don't think that there is anything important that I used to do that I can't do today, and perhaps even better!!! I am not able to do the same physical things such as running, jumping or lifting as I did, but I know how to ask for help, I can still get the job done in time. I can still love a man....wih more deep seated passion then in my youth, perhaps not as actively as before.... but it may be more more meaningful now because the passing of time makes me more aware of the need to be needed. If I can continue to be useful, loving, compassionate, responsible, mobile, independent and fairly financially secure....I think life is grand, the problems come when health, money or other variables reduce those important things, thus reducing us to a point where we are no longer viable beings! Perhaps we breathe life, but are no longer able to live and enjoy those things that made up life for us, and we 'NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF', life and living are no longer a part of us...we just begin to exist .....AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, I WOULD THEN WELCOME DEATH, RATHER THAN LIFE ON THOSE TERMS!!!! Being active,loving and visible are so very important..doig stuff is just nother challenge to ovecome. Youth has its share of problems that are not things thatI'd like o revisit just to regain years....I reallly like where I am right now. I LOVE BEING MY AGE IN MY CURRENT STATE OF HEALTH!

My comment lacked that I perfer to live amongst people of all ages rather than just one age. I enjoy reminiscing with those who shared my era, and I enjoy learning new things from young folks, thus extending my interest, and I like to think that perhaps my past experiences may be able to lighten some of today problems for some of those who are younger than I. I would not want to be farmed out to an old folks home!! I would like to live in my home,with some help, as long as possible, yet not to a point of being burden!!!

hi there .....hows things going??need some form of membership to log in i presume!!will chk it later..first thing first..
.block, n. (1) (shortened from mental block) A sort of organic stoprule or safety valve that prevents people from going crazy when they consider thought experiments exploiting combinatorial explosion.
'It's a good thing I had a block just then! I was getting a trifle dizzy when he started going on about storing all the possible descriptions of the universe in a book made out of tiny galaxies pretending they're electrons.'
n. (2) A small but obdurate obstacle preventing the smooth operation of a mechanism, a spanner in the works. Hence, mental block, an objection to functionalism obsessively maintained in the face of all manner of refutations, blandishments and appeals to common cause.
(er does it sound a bit familiar!!??know some ppl like that!)
.brandt, v. To take a flexible and complex position and stun as by affixing a slogan description, with its own mark attached as a label.
'The argument was good for a long run until he brandt it, and then all it could do was look dazed and sorry.' (no,i am confused..totally..dazed!but not sorry..what then??)
.buber, v. To struggle in a morass of one's own making.
'After I defined the self as a relation that relates to itself relatingly, I bubered around for three pages.' Hence buber,
n. one who bubers. 'When my mistake was pointed out to me, I felt like a complete buber.' (think,i am in a state of buber!)
.bunged-up, adj. Full of unnecessary material.
so thats all for today folks..i can hear the sound of sighs(reilef)better i stop here lest someone may complain that ap has bunged-up the page!!
cheers

Yes, Ap, you'll need 'some form of membership' to post here soon, I suspect. Of course, the word 'membership' is decidely incorrect. 'Subscriber' is more accurate. Members have a voice in the operation of an organization (which we do not have and are not entitled to, except as consumers choosing to pay [either directly or through clicks which generate revenue] or not to pay). But this site is the owner/administrator's private enterprise. God bless capitalism...I engage in a lot of it myself. But I would like to think that I disclose every aspect of a deal to my customers...

If it has not been deleted, see my post today {1 May, p.4} about Agloco.

So the site is converting into one that acquires and sells information, not just advertising. To demonstrate this, go through this exercise: look for a book on Amazon, and do not block Amazon's cookies. Then come back to this site, and you will find advertisements on the left side of the page corresponding to your search, because Amazon is picking up its cookies while you are here. (It might take a few hours, but it's there.)

But it's all 'Free.' If you measure your freedom only in dollars...

yes Ian,we've come a long way..from just the sudoku to this level..and nothing comes free we all know that pretty well....and the fittest survive!!afterall who has the gold makes the rule..isnt it??

I will never believe that, ap, having taken out some very large, very rich opponents/competitors (both in business and in politics) with only energy and dedication.

I am reminded of a conversation between two generals during the Vietnam war. One said, 'How is some little guy with an AK-47 going to defeat a superpower with jet fighters?' The reply was full of wisdom...'How is a superpower ever going to defeat some little guy who is willing to go up against a jet fighter with an AK-47?'

C
carnap, n. (1) A formally defined symbol, operator, special bit of notation.
'His prose is peppered with carnaps' or 'the argument will proceed more efficiently if we introduce a few carnaps'.
car-nap n. (2) Loss of consciousness while being taken for a ride.
chisholm, v. To make repeated small alterations in a definition or example.
'He started with definition (d.8) and kept chisholming away at it until he ended up with (d.8'''''''').' oh my..pray i dont become a chisholmer!
church, n. A tightly constructed, heavily defended medieval place of worship, now primarily a tourist attraction
code, v. To render unintelligible by substituting a literal translation. Hence code, n. the product of coding.
'What he says about Aristotle sounds like code to me.'
curry, n. A work well seasoned with neologism; hence, curried, adj.
'His work was an indigestible mass of curried grice.'

sure Ian..but what kinda energy and how much dedication?to fight what??as you've observed its owners/administrators private enterprise stuff..if you wanna stay,follow the rules, if not just quit..thats it..the msg is loud and clear..every click generates a revenue irrespective of its nature,whether its for or against,so either way the master has the last laugh!!

ap keep the words coming, wonderful lists... hope you come in the chatroom soon x

Only if she joins Bertie is she able to enter the chat room with the elite.

morning to everybody..
'd'
.derek, n. A philosophical skyhook, purportedly capable of transporting one to the 'standpoint of the universe'.
'The only way to raise yourself up to the point where you can understand how it can be good to do bad, and rational to be irrational, is to take a derek.' (loved it..and we all go'derek'sometimes i think most of the times!!!!)
.derrida. From a old French nonsense refrain: 'Hey nonny derrida, nonny nonny derrida falala.'
(havent got a clue what it is,but sounds catchy)
.desousaphone, n. A musical instrument, descended from the harmanica (q.v.); like the bassoon, it is often used to provide comic effects in program music. (oh boy!what a coincidence..anything to do with 'bass'is a comic interlude!by the way wheres 'bassoom'of this site??think i miss him)
deweyite, adj. Full of vague and impractical but well-intentioned ideas. (there are some ppl i know for this definition..but i will not go there)
.donnellan, v. Contraction of 'don't know from nothing'.
'This stuff about reference I donnellan.' (liked it..will use it oneday!)

I'm enjoying your lexicon as well. But I am curious...why post them here, in the Forum?

no specific reason Ian...it started like this..Jeb was talking abt how he swapped his major from philosophy to business and Bill came out with a light hearted incidence pertaining to same subject
and there was a long gap after that..no posts..so thought i will just fill the page with some philosophical stuff...and ofcourse not serious..so here iam with it...just that..
cheers

er you want me to shift this to the general page?does it look a bit inappropriate here,in this debate page??
ok folks tell me plz if i can continue here or shud i have to move to general page..there i raised a question!

Not at all, ap. I was just curious. I just thought it might be something else that motivated you.

AP
you post it where ever you want to, this is where your discussion began with jeb so here is quite appropriate.

E
.enc, n. The purported distance between a mechanical device and a mind.

.ew, v. To work in an impenetrable medium.
'He spent his whole life ewing an idealistic line.'

F

.feigl, v. (with out) To give up a previously held position.
'Once the antimony was pointed out to him he feigled out.'

.feinberg, n. A mountain of finely grained distinctions; hence feinberg, v. To work one's way out of a corner by building and mounting a feinberg.
'I was pinned in my argument, but then managed to feinberg my way out.' (must make a note!will come in handy anytime..for i often get in to corners where i may have to feinberg my way out!)
.findlay, n. An implement used in the exploration of caves. It is not known exactly what it is because it is only used in total darkness. (the last two words brought a burst of laughter,especially try reading it in whisper!)
.fitch, v. To seek sound arguments for positions no one holds.
'In his last article he really went fitching.'
.fitch, n. Such an argument, and
.fitchous, adj. describing such arguments
(e.g. a fitchous circle), also
.fitchy, adj. 'His argument struck me as fitchy.'

'f'and 'g'
.foster, v. To insist on the importance or existence of something insignificant or unreal.
(if it happens to be a noun then can the 'froms'of this site be christened as 'fosters'!!??)
.frege, n. (only in the idiom, to beg the frege) To acknowledge the inconsistency of one's position but maintain it anyway.
G
.Gatham:v.the art of converging a huge mass of population in front of the monitor,
by offering irresistive new features thru a single site(may lead to links)
pleasing the members subscribers as well as the free
Gathaming:pertaining to such activity
Gathamest:adj.the effort of maintaining the site on air inspite of the host problems.
.gass, v. (1) To write philosophy like a novelist; (2) To write novels like a philosopher.
.geach, n.Indefinable term, which can be learned only by ostension, having to do with the way one reacts to a philosophic issue or individuals.
'It made me want to geach.'
'They were sitting in the bar, geaching at Whitehead.'
'It is hard to say whether he is seriously chisholming the definition or just geaching off.'

would I be a gathamer? or a gathamist? a gathaen?

well that depends on what you are actually involved in billy !the beaut of the word is that it can be logically extended to suit anything.....sounds much better with such names rather than appy or billy i reckon
just try appying,billying..nah nah..
gathing..well wow..good
lets stop there