Final Page for Tough of November 28, 2007

The following is page four, the final page, of an illustrated solution for the Tough Sudoku of November 28, 2007. Their are no truly difficult steps on this page.

Page One of this solution was primarily about the use of an Almost Unique Rectangle in a chain. Page Two of this solution included one complex step linking several disparite types of Almost AICs. Page Three of this solution also included one complex step linking two Y Wing Styles. There are many ways to finish this puzzle. One path is illustrated below.

Previous blog pages may be helpful. Links to these pages are found to the right, under Sudoku Techniques.


Step 5a - Locked candidate 9


Locked candidate 9


Above, candidate 9 is limited to column 5 within box 8, thus it cannot exist outside of column 5 within box 8.


Step 5b - a short chain using an Almost Naked Pair


Almost Naked Pair 13










On the left,

  • (3=4)r8c4-(4)r3c4=(4)r2c5-(4=pair13)r24c1
  • => r8c1≠3


Step 5c - a longer chain that could be viewed as two chains


Depth 6 AIC




On the left,

  • (8)r7c1=(8)r7c2-(8=3)r5c2-(3=1)r4c1-(1)r5c3=(1-4)r3c3
  • =(4)r23c1 => r7c1≠4
  • continue chain: -(4=5)r8c1 => r7c1≠5
Once one has done the work of finding the depth 5 chain forbidding (4) from r7c1, adding the strong inference set (sis) (4=5)r8c1 is very little extra work to eliminate (5) from r7c1. One might alternatively find:
  • (HP38)r7c12=(3)r89c3-(3=6)r1c3-(6=pair29)r12c2-(2)r1c1=(2-8)r6c1=(8)r7c1
  • => r7c1 limited to (38) => r7c1≠45
Again, there are always multiple ways to justify an elimination.


Step 5d - Locked candidate 5


Locked candidate 5


Above, candidate 5 is limited to row 7 within box 9, thus it cannot exist outside of row 7 within box 9.


Step 5e - Hidden Pair 59 - Hidden Pair 54 used in a chain


Dueling HP


The newly stronger 5's in box 9 row 7 form a super cell such that only one other candidate can fit into r7c79. Thus,

  • (9)r8c9=(HP59-HP54)r7c79=(4)r7c45-(4=3)r8c4 => r8c9≠3
  • => (9)r8c9 %cell
  • => (9)r7c5 %box (& %row, & %column)
  • => UP 31


Step 6 - Skyscraper with candidate 1


Skyscraper 1


The last step made candidate 1 stronger in column 5, revealing a simple coloring chain with candidate 1 that finishes the puzzle:

  • (1): r2c5=r5c5-r5c3=r3c3 => r2c1,r3c6≠1
  • => (9)r3c6 %cell
  • => (5)r6c6 %cell
  • => (5)r5c3 %box
  • => %cell (naked singles) to end => UP 81


Solution


Solution


Notes


  • Step 4b on page two is by far the most difficult step of this solution. It is depth 9, which is also the deepest step used in this solution.
  • Step 2d on page one used an Almost Unique Rectangle. I think that step is the primary puzzle breaker.
  • Step 4g on page three employed linked Y Wing Styles. I found that step to be the most fun.
All of the steps can be reduced to counting. Counting certainly works as an idea that catches everything. However, it seems to provide scant insight into how one might break a puzzle down into managable pieces. I may change my mind about that evaluation.....

The proof that counting can catch everything is trivial. Counting allows one to consider any arbitrary sis at any time. It also insures that each weak inference emanating from any arbitrary sis can be considered. Thus, there exists no sudoku axiom that counting cannot consider - except perhaps Uniqueness. However, uniqueness of solution is never required to solve a puzzle. It merely provides a convenient short-cut, at times.

Of course, this is nothing earth-shattering. It is not even sudoku world shattering! It really is only a brute force method of allowing complete axiomatic coverage. At this time, (for truly difficult puzzles), I primarily locate potential puzzle weaknesses using snippets of known techniques. Sans such devices for deciding where to look, I am not sure that counting saves time. In fact, it may just be too general to be of much use in deciding where to look.

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ttt  From vietnam
Hi STEVE,

Thank you very very ... much for your works on this Site!
Can I have one (only one) question : How about your rating for this puzzle...?
05/Jan/08 2:52 AM
Thomas Kimble  From USA
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Hi Steve,

This blog is far and away the most useful site for advanced methods (beyond the logic of sudoku). I have been able to solve about half a dozen 'unsolvables,' those Stuart's solver cannot crack using your advanced AIC's. One problem: I cannot locate your discussions of the 11/28 and 12/21 puzzles. I noticed these were unsolvable (according to Stuart's solver) at the time. every time I try to call up these pages, I get an error message.

Tom

09/Jan/08 12:39 PM
Steve  From Ohio    Supporting Member
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Hi Tom!

There have been some server problems. The blog info was one of the casualities. In a few days, all should be restored.

Thanks so much for your kind words!

09/Jan/08 6:32 PM
Steve  From Ohio    Supporting Member
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Hi ttt!

Blogged Solution rating for puzzle of 11/28/07:

10.39

Interestingly enough, the best rating that I can come up with for the puzzle of 11/26/07 is

10.38

When the blog problems get fixed, I will probalby also blog that one.
10/Jan/08 7:50 AM
Thomas Kimble  From USA
For whatever it is worth, I have made a list of sudokus from sudoku.com.au that Andrew's solver cannot crack. I have only been at it since late August and mayhave missed a few. I have been able to complete all but 10-3-07.

AU 8-26-07 ..7.83...25.....6......62...9......3...674...1......5...64......8.....74...89.1.. AU 9-4-07 ...2.7..691............63...4..3.7..2.......5..5.8..1...75............548..6.9... AU 10-3-07 ..65....4...8.......9..27...7......62..1.3..54......3...17..3.......9...8....42.. AU 11-8-07 .6....7....2...6.9...1.5....8..1....1..3.4..6....9..4....7.8...6.5...2....3....5. AU 11-26-07 ....9..4.5..2.7.....2...1.9...7...81....6....31...5...7.9...4.....
11/Jan/08 10:39 AM
Maureen  From PA
Gath, any idea when the sudoku blog will be back? Really miss it (and need it!)!! Thanks.
29/Jan/08 7:34 AM
Jeff  From Maryland
Thomas, What about the tough from Jan 14th, 2008? If I turn off the two guessing methods Andrew's solver does not solve it.
06/Feb/08 9:08 AM
Thomas Kimble  From USA
Jeff and Steve,

1. 1/14/08 is unsolvable as is 1/15/08. I think I have a solution to 1/14. 1/30/08 is the hardest sudoku I have ever seen. Sudocue.net rates it at over 20,000, making it harder than the Easter Monster or Escargot. I cannot even begin using any of the methods described on the blog. Any ideas, Steve?

2. How about an unsolvables page? My current list is fifteen and I am sure I have missed a few.
08/Feb/08 7:07 AM
Steve  From Ohio    Supporting Member
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Hi Thomas!
I have not had much time lately, but I have looked at 1/14. Hopefully I will blog it soon. Guess that I have a lot of work to do....
08/Feb/08 12:19 PM
Thomas Kimble  From USA
Steve,

I saw your solution to 1/14. It is better than mine. I think I have 1/30 cracked, but the solution is a mess. It uses Dual Forcing AIC's. I would not have been able to get it had I not read your study in chain forging. I read somewhere that I could post solutions on the Tough Page, but I am not sure how to do this. It would take me a few days to write it up anyway Here is one from Susser. It is listed as the World's Hardest. Even Advanced Forbidding Chains do not seem to help.

7.8...3.....2.1...5.........4.....263...8.......1...9..9.6....4....7.5...........
10/Feb/08 7:33 AM
Steve  From Ohio    Supporting Member
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Thanks for the notice of these tough puzzles. I am not certain that I will find the time to crack all the really tough ones. I am not sure that I have the ability to crack the super tough ones, either!

On the tough pages, in the comment area - people (including once upon a time, me) have been posting proofs off and on since the start of this site. Usually, the algebraic chessboard notation style is used. GB and andrei's style of writing forbidding chains is generally used. Nevertheless, any style that one defines should work.
10/Feb/08 1:23 PM
Thomas Kimble  From USA
Steve,

I finally got through the new pages. A couple of questions: At step 3d, you did not eliminate the 3 at r4c6. It seems to me that the 3 should have been eliminated by your chain. I found it easier to see by rewriting the chain as a continuous wrap around. The 3 then falls out of r4c6. I think if you write the symmetric pigeonhole matrix, the 3 will also fall out, but I have not looked into this.

Another thing, when you get some time, it would interesting to take a look at the other solutions you mention at Step 4b. I think many of us can follow your notation without the graphic.
14/Feb/08 2:44 AM
Steve  From Ohio    Supporting Member
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I have only glanced at step 3d again. It seems that two things are of note:
As written, it is not really a wrap-around chain. (xcell)b-(pairxy)cellsab is not a true statement.
One may be able to eliminate the 3 at r4c6, but I think that it would require consideration of at least one sis not considered in the chain.

The step also will not create a symetric pigeonhole matrix. (8)r5c2 has two weak links being used, and these weak links do not conflict. I did not graph both of them, but one needs both: (8)r5c2-(8)r6c12 and (8)r5c2-(8)r7c2, but (8)r6c12-(8)r5c2 is not in evidence. (8)r6c1-(8)r7c2??

By now, it is likely that I have lost my notes regarding this puzzle. If I find them, I probably will post some alternate steps. However, my notes are often very sparse - I use a shorthand notation that is not very descriptive - something like a short sis list, noting only the surprise sis entries, and the total depth. By surprise, I mean sis entries that I would not include upon first inspection in the step. Thus, "non-surprise" steps might only say: "D4 => ~x cella". Reconstruction is often then time consuming. I suppose my notes assume that a puzzle is considered while it still resides in my head.
14/Feb/08 7:54 PM
Steve  From Ohio    Supporting Member
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typo above: but (8)r6c12-(8)r7c2 is not evident.
14/Feb/08 7:56 PM
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